並前往https://podcasts.apple.com/tw/podcast/cathy-abc-%E9%9B%85%E7%90%B4%E8%AA%AA%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87-the-view-with-catherine-chang-%E9%9B%85%E7%90%B4%E7%9C%8B%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C/id1042681724